JESUS THE HIGH PRIEST WITH THE HOLY EUCHARIST

PART 1

IS THE NOVUS ORDO MASS DIFFERENT IN SUBSTANCE AND FORM FROM THE TLM? By Splendor1618

PART 2

Terry

Thank you. Believe me when I say that I am not attacking you or your viewpoint. I struggle with this because after years of attending the Tridentine and spending a great deal of time n Adoration, I developed a greater desire to receive the Sacrament more frequently than my schedule will allow me through the Tridentine Form. So I considered the Novus Ordo and did attend a few times, but it feels foreign. I understand your thoughts about the portions of the Mass which remain intact. Allow me to ask you your thoughts on the omission of the prayers at the foot of the altar, the disppearance of the fingers being joined together by the priest, silent canaon, priest facing the altar, etc. Do you feel that it would be better for the priest to face the altar, as he is leading us in prayer. Also, if I may, what are your thoughts about the priest being the only person to distribute the Host and for it to be received kneeling and on the tongue? Also, can you refer me to any good information that I might read about the early church and the Mass, in general. As to my references, some were taken from John Salza’s Apologetics web site.
Yes, my early association with the Tridenetine Mass was with the SSPX, but I now attend it at a Diocesan Oratory of St. Philip Neri.

In reply to Terry.[Thank you.]

YOU ARE WELCOME.

[ Believe me when I say that I am not attacking you or your viewpoint.]

OK, I BELIEVE YOU.

[ I struggle with this because after years of attending the Tridentine and spending a great deal of time n Adoration, I developed a greater desire to receive the Sacrament more frequently than my schedule will allow me through the Tridentine Form.]

THANKS BE TO GOD. IF YOU FOUND SPIRITUAL BENEFITS THROUGH TRIDENTINE MASS THAT IS GOOD. HOWEVER, IT IS NOT AN EXCUSE TO REJECT OR CRITICIZE THE VATICAN II MASS.

ON MY PART, I GREW UP UNDER THE VATICAN II MASS CELEBRATED IN OUR NATIVE TAGALOG LANGUAGE AND I LOVED IT FROM CHILDHOOD. IT INSPIRED ME TO LOVE THE CHURCH AND TO SERVE THE LORD. LATER ON I CAME TO APPRECIATE THE LATIN MASS BUT I STILL LOVE THE MASS IN OUR PARISH CELEBRATED IN TAGALOG THEN I ALSO APPRECIATE THE ONE IN ENGLISH. LATER I SAW ON VIDEOS THE MASS CELEBRATED IN GREEK BY BYZANTINE RITE AND IT WAS ALSO VERY BEAUTIFUL. TO APPRECIATE ONE RITE AND THEN REJECT OR CRITICIZE THE OTHER IS FOUL. IF WE TRULY LOVE THE CHURCH WE HAVE TO LOVE “ALL THE APPROVED RITES” BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL SPIRITUAL FOOD FOR OUR SACRAMENTAL BENEFITS.

THE TRIDENTINE MASS WAS A NEW INVENTION. IT WAS ONLY A 16TH CENTURY INVENTION. THE TRIDENTINE MASS DOESN’T EXIST AS SUCH PRIOR TO 16TH CENTURY OF PIUS V. THE MASS OF THE APOSTLES AND THE FATHERS OF THE CHURCH AND THE GOLDEN AGE OF THE MONASTIC ERA WAS NOT THE TRIDENTINE MASS. AS THE CHURCH ACCEPTED IT AS A NEW RITE THE CHURCH ALSO ACCEPTS ANOTHER NEW RITE COMPOSED BY A LITURGICAL COMMISSION FORMED BY THE POPE AND THE FINAL TEXT PROMULGATED BY PAPAL AUTHORITY. NO MORE, NO LESS. BOTH THE TRIDENTINE MASS AND THE PAULINE MASS WERE PRODUCED BY PAPAL LITURGICAL COMMISSIONS AND BOTH PROMULGATED BY PAPAL AUTHORITY. THEY ARE EQUAL IN HONOR AND DIGNITY AND IN VALIDITY.

[ So I considered the Novus Ordo and did attend a few times, but it feels foreign.]

IT IS NOT THE FAULT OF NOVUS ORDO IF YOU FEEL FOREIGN. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN FEELINGS. THE NOVUS ORDO IS NOT DESIGNED TO SATISFY ONE PERSON’S “FEELINGS”. IF THAT IS WHAT YOU FEEL, THEN SORRY FOR YOU.

BEAR IN MIND ALSO THAT MANY CATHOLICS ALSO FIND THE LATIN MASS FOREIGN. WHY? BECAUSE THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND LATIN. MANY FIND IT BORING. SOME CRITICIZE IT AS SO DETACH FROM THE PEOPLE. THE PRIEST IS DOING THINGS ON THE ALTAR AS IF OBLIVIOUS OF THE PEOPLE AT HIS BACK AND THE PEOPLE AT THE PEWS WERE PRAYING THE ROSARIES AND NOVENAS AS IF THEY ARE NOT PRAYING THE MOST IMPORTANT PRAYER AND ADORATION OF ALL INSTEAD THEY RECITE THE DEVOTIONAL MANUALS.

IF OTHERS WILL SAY THESE CRITICISMS TO TRIDENTINE MASS AND INDEED MANY HAVE VOICED THESE OUT BEFORE, WHAT WILL YOU FEEL? MY POINT IS, IF WE WILL CRITICIZE EACH OF THEM WE WILL ALWAYS FIND WAYS TO FIND NEGATIVES BUT IF WE WILL OPEN OUR MINDS TO EACH OF THEM THEY ARE BOTH VERY BEAUTIFUL IN THEIR OWN RIGHT.

[I understand your thoughts about the portions of the Mass which remain intact.]

IT IS NOT ONLY THE PORTIONS OF THE MASS WHICH REMAIN INTACT. THEY ARE THE SUBSTANTIAL ELEMENTS OF THE MASS. THE CHANGES ARE ACCIDENTALS, WHICH MEANS, THEY ARE NOT ESSENTIAL TO THE SACRAMENT: SUCH AS LANGUAGE, VESTMENTS, ETC.

[ Allow me to ask you your thoughts on the omission of the prayers at the foot of the altar,]

THE VATICAN II MASS HAS PRESERVED THE PENITENTIAL RITE. THE PRAYERS AT THE FOOT OF THE ALTAR IS NOT ESSENTIAL TO THE MASS. WITH OR WITHOUT IT THE MASS IS STILL THE MASS AND STILL VALID. THE CONFITEOR BEING RECITED BY THE PRIEST AND THEN TO BE REPEATED BY THE SERVERS IS SIMPLY REPETITIOUS. THE LITURGICAL COMMISSION OF POPE PAUL VI BRILLIANTLY SIMPLIFIED IT BY HAVING THE PRIEST AND THE COMMUNITY RECITE THE CONFITEOR TOGETHER. SO IT IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME.

THEN, THE CONFITEOR HAS THE SAME EFFECTS EVEN IF IT IS DONE AT THE FOOT OF THE ALTAR OR ON THE ALTAR OR AT THE CHAIR OF THE CELEBRANT. IT IS NOT A DOGMA OF THE CHURCH THAT THE CONFITEOR BECOMES EFFECTIVE ONLY AT THE FOOT OF THE ALTAR. IS IT?

WE ARE GRATEFUL TO POPE PAUL VI AND HIS LITURGICAL COMMISSION FOR SIMPLIFYING THE HOLY MASS IN THE RITE OF THE NOVUS ORDO. WE APPRECIATE THE PRAYERS AT THE FOOT OF THE ALTAR IN TLM BUT THAT IS NOT THE ONLY WAY TO DO THE INTRODUCTORY PRAYERS. THE CHURCH IS NOT LIMITED TO THAT.

[ the disppearance of the fingers being joined together by the priest,]

THE “CANONICAL FINGERS” OR THE GESTURE OF CLOSING THE MAIN THUMB WITH THE RING FINGERS AFTER THE CONSECRATION WAS ONLY A LATER ADDITION. IT WAS NOT ORIGINAL TO THE APOSTOLIC MASSES OF THE CHURCH. THE MEANING OF THE ACTION IS NICE AND BEAUTIFUL BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE ALSO HAVE TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT SUCH A GESTURE TODAY HAS DIFFERENT MEANING OR SIGNIFICATION TO MANY PEOPLE. CLOSING YOUR MAIN THUMB WITH THE FINGER THUMB NOWADAYS COULD MEAN: “MONEY” OR “OK”.

JUST IMAGINE THE ENEMIES OF THE CHURCH ATTACKING THE PRIESTS FOR USING “THE MONEY FINGERS” DURING THE MASS… AND PEOPLE WILL MAKE A MOCKERY OF IT? WHAT WOULD YOU FEEL?

THE CANONICAL FINGERS IS NOT SUBSTANTIAL TO THE MASS. WHAT IS SUBSTANTIAL IS THE ELEVATION, RAISING OR SHOWING OF THE HOLY EUCHARIST AFTER THE “INSTITUTION NARRATIVE”.

[ silent canaon,]

THE BIBLICAL TESTIMONY IS SOLID THAT THE LORD JESUS CELEBRATED THE HOLY MASS NOT IN SILENCE BUT IN FULL HEARING OF THE FAITHFUL PRESENT. THAT IS THE REASON WHY THE INSTITUTION NARRATIVE IS PRESERVED IN APOSTOLIC KERYGMA AND IN APOSTOLIC WRITINGS. IF THE LORD JESUS CELEBRATED THE HOLY MASS ESPECIALLY THE EUCHARISTIC CANON IN SILENCE THEN THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO JESUS ALONE. INSTEAD, THE APOSTLES AND THE ENTIRE FAITHFUL, THE WHOLE CHURCH, MEMORIZED THE INSTITUTION NARRATIVE BY HEART BECAUSE THE LORD STATED THEM CLEARLY USING HIS VOICE.

IF YOU WANT SILENCE WHY DON’T YOU STAY IN PERPETUAL ADORATION BEFORE THE BLESSED SACRAMENT FOR THE WHOLE OF SUNDAY FROM DAWN TO MIDNIGHT SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE ENOUGH SILENCE AS MUCH AS YOU WANT? IF MILLIONS OF CATHOLICS WANT TO HEAR THE EUCHARISTIC CANON IN OUR OWN LANGUAGE THE WAY JESUS PROCLAIMED IT IN ARAMAIC AND THEN THE APOSTLES CELEBRATING THEM IN GREEK AS WELL AS THE FATHERS OF THE CHURCH CELEBRATING THEM IN GREEK, LATIN, ARABIC, SYRIAC, SLAVONIC, ETC IS THAT WRONG? THE CELEBRATION OF THE EUCHARISTIC CANON IN NATIVE TONGUE OF THE PEOPLE AND LOUDLY IS APOSTOLIC AND PATRISTIC IN ORIGIN. THE SILENT CANON AND IN LATIN CAME ONLY LATER.

[ priest facing the altar,]

THE PRIEST IN THE VATICAN II MASS IS FACING THE EUCHARISTIC ALTAR. IN FACT HE IS FACING THE EUCHARISTIC ALTAR TABLE WHERE THE BODY AND BLOOD OF THE LORD IS DURING THE MASS. THE PEOPLE TOO ARE FACING THE ALTAR OF THE EUCHARIST. THAT IS VERY BIBLICAL AND APOSTOLIC. IN THE LAST SUPPER JESUS AND THE APOSTLES WERE FACING THE ALTAR TABLE AND NOT THE WALL ALTAR ONLY. THAT IS ALSO PART OF THE SACRED TRADITION OF THE CHURCH. EVERY TIME THE PRIESTS CELEBRATES THE HOLY MASS HE IS FACING JESUS ON THE EUCHARISTIC TABLE AND THAT MAKES IT “AD ORIENTEM”. IT IS NOT THE WALL THAT MAKES THE “ORIENS” BUT CHRIST. JESUS IS THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD. JESUS IS THE TRUE ORIENS, THE SUN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. THUS, WHEN OUR PRIESTS CELEBRATES THE MASS IN FRONT OF THE ALTAR THAT IS ALWAYS FACING JESUS.

THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOU ARE BEING BRAINWASHED THAT THE TLM WALL-FACING WORSHIP IS THE ONLY WAY TO DO AD ORIENTEM. THAT IS NOT THE ONLY WAY. THAT IS ONLY ONE WAY OF DOING IT.

MOREOVER, JESUS FULFILLED HIS GREATEST ACT AS THE HIGH PRIEST OF THE NEW COVENANT ON THE CROSS. THERE ON THE CROSS THE LORD JESUS WAS PRIEST, PROPHET AND KING. HE WAS THERE AS THE GREATEST PRIEST OF ALL AND THE GREATEST VICTIM OF ALL AND IN THE GREATEST SACRIFICE OF ALL. THAT HOLY MASS IN ALL ITS RITES AND FORMS WHETHER BYZANTINE, TRIDENTINE, PAULINE, SYRO-MALABAR, MARONITE, AMBROSIAN, ETC. MAKES PRESENT THE ONE AND ETERNAL SACRIFICE OF JESUS ON THE CROSS. NOW, WHEN OUR HIGH PRIEST OFFERED HIMSELF AS VICTIM AND ACTED AS HIGH PRIEST ON THE CROSS WAS HE FACING THE PEOPLE OR HAVING HIS BACK ON THE PEOPLE? JESUS FACED THE PEOPLE IN HIS ETERNAL SACRIFICE ON THE CROSS. HE DIDN’T TURNED HIS BACK. MAMA MARY AND ST. JOHN AND ST. MARY MAGDALENE AND THE OTHER MARYS AND THE BELEIVING CENTURION SAW THE FACE OF JESUS… THEY HEARD HIS VOICE SPEAKING… THE GREAT HIGH PRIEST IN HIS ETERNAL SACRIFICE FACED THE PEOPLE AND NOT THE WALL.

THE HOLIEST SACRIFICE OF ALL WHICH IS THE FOUNDATION OF ALL HOLY MASSES OF THE CHURCH PRESENTED THE GREATEST PRIEST FACING THE PEOPLE NOT WITH HIS BACK. HE DIDN’T FOLLOW THE HOLOCAUST SACRIFICE OF THE HIGH PRIESTS OF THE SANHEDRIN WHO OFFERED WITH THEIR BACK ON THE PEOPLE AND THEY ARE FACING THE TEMPLE. AGAIN, I WANT TO REPEAT THAT IF IN TRIDENTINE MASS THEY ARE FACING THE ALTAR ON THE WALL THAT IS FINE AND GREAT. HOWEVER, DON’T FIND FAULT ALSO IF THE PRIESTS FACES THE PEOPLE BECAUSE EVEN THE ONE ETERNAL SACRIFICE OF CHRIST ON CALVARY OUR ETERNAL HIGH PRIEST FACED THE PEOPLE.

[ etc.]

WHATEVER THAT “ETC.” IS THE TRIDENTINE MASS AND THE VATICAN MASS HAS EQUAL DIGNITY AND VALIDITY. NO MORE, NO LESS.

[ Do you feel that it would be better for the priest to face the altar, as he is leading us in prayer.]

IT IS NOT ABOUT WHAT I FEEL. IF YOU DEPEND ONLY ON YOUR FEELINGS THEN YOU ARE NO MORE THAN THE BORN AGAIN OR EVANGELICAL PROTESTANTS WHO RELY MUCH ON FEELINGS. ITS A QUESTION OF APOSTOLIC TRADITION.
WHEN JESUS LED HIS DISCIPLES IN PRAYING THE “OUR FATHER” HE WAS TALKING TO THEM AS WELL AS TEACHING THEM AND SHOWING TO THEM. HE WAS FACING THE PEOPLE IN PRAYER. PRAYER IS PRAYER WHETHER THE PRIEST FACES THE ALTAR ON THE WALL AND THE EUCHARISTIC ALTAR. OUR PRIESTS ARE FACING THE ALTAR DURING THE HOLY MASS.

IT IS PLAIN LIE AND STUPID TO CLAIM THAT THE PRIESTS DO NOT FACE THE ALTAR DURING THE HOLY MASS. IN FACT, HE IS STANDING AT THE SANCTUARY AND IS ADDRESSING THE PRAYERS TO THE HOLY TRINITY, THAT IS, TO THE FATHER THROUGH THE SON AND IN COMMUNION WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT. DO NOT BE SPIRITUALLY BLIND BECAUSE OF BIAS TO A CERTAIN MANNER OF PRAYER TO THE POINT THAT YOU DO NOT SEE THE GOOD THINGS DONE BY THE OTHER.

[ Also, if I may, what are your thoughts about the priest being the only person to distribute the Host and for it to be received kneeling and on the tongue?]

ONCE AGAIN, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION STUDY THE HISTORY OF THE CHURCH.

THE PRIESTS ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CELEBRATES THE HOLY MASS AND ONCE THE EUCHARIST ARE CONSECRATED THEY DISTRIBUTE THE HOLY COMMUNION. HOWEVER, ONCE THE EUCHARIST ARE CONSECRATED, THE DEACONS AND EVEN LAY PEOPLE CAN BRING THE COMMUNION TO OTHERS. IT IS VERY CLEAR IN THE HISTORY OF THE CHURCH THAT THERE WERE LAY SAINTS ENTRUSTED TO BRING THE HOLY EUCHARIST TO THE SICK OR TO THOSE FAR AWAY WHEN PRIESTS COULDN’T VISIT FREQUENTLY. ST. TARCISIUS IS ONE OF THEM.

IT IS ALSO SHOWN THAT NUNS SPECIALLY MOTHER ABBESS AND PRIORESS CAN EVEN EXPOSE THE BLESSED SACRAMENT. ST. CLARE IS FAMOUS FOR HOLDING THE BLESSED SACRAMENT IN HER STAMPITAS. NUNS AND CONSECRATED VIRGINS WERE ALSO TASKED TO BRING COMMUNION TO THEIR COMMUNITIES WHEN PRIESTS COULDN’T VISIT THEIR FAR AWAY MONASTERIES AND CONVENTS.

IT IS VERY FUNNY AND PATHETIC THAT WHEN TRIDENTINE MASS IS BEING CELEBRATED AND THE ORGANIZERS KNOW THAT MANY PEOPLE WILL BE COMING THEY CALL ONE OR MORE PRIESTS TO HELP GIVING COMMUNION. IF ALL SUNDAY MASSES ARE IN TRIDENTINE MASS THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE BECAUSE NO PRIEST WILL COME TO HELP SINCE ALMOST ALL OF THEM HAVE THEIR OWN MASSES. IT WILL MAKE THE MASSES LONG AND TERRIBLE TO THE HEALTH OF MANY PRIESTS WHO ARE ALONE IN PARISHES OR ARE BURDENED BY OLD AGE OR ARE SUFFERING INFIRMITIES. THE CHURCH IS VERY PRACTICAL AND BRILLIANT IN ALLOWING THE DEACONS AND CALLING ON EXTRAORDINARY MINISTERS TO HELP DISTRIBUTING COMMUNION. BEFORE VATICAN II THERE WERE ONLY ABOUT 600 MILLION CATHOLICS. NOW IT IS ALREADY 1.3 BILLION CATHOLICS. IF IN ALL MASSES ONLY PRIESTS WILL GIVE COMMUNION IT WILL MAKE THE MASS LONG AND IMPRACTICAL. EVEN IF THERE ARE 3 OR 5 PRIESTS GIVING COMMUNION AT ONE MASS IN MANILA CATHEDRAL ALONE THEY WILL NOT BE ENOUGH TO FINISH GIVING COMMUNION FOR 30 MINUTES.

DURING PRE-VATICAN II ONE PRIEST WAS ENOUGH TO GIVE HOLY COMMUNION BECAUSE UNTIL THE TIME OF POPE ST. PIUS X THERE WERE NO CHILDREN COMMUNION AND VERY FEW WERE TAKING HOLY COMMUNION. I CHALLENGE YOUR PRIEST TO GIVE HOLY COMMUNION ALONE IN ONE MASS AT QUIAPO CHURCH OR BACLARAN CHURCH OR IN ANY PARISH OF MANILA DURING SUNDAY. LET US SEE IF HE WILL NOT FEEL SICK AFTERWARD. THEN LET HIM CELEBRATE ANOTHER MASS DOING THE SAME AND THEN ANOTHER. LET ME SEE HOW STRONG WILL HE BE ABLE TO RESIST DOING THAT WEEK AFTER WEEK.

DONT BE BLIND TO THE WISDOM AND BENEVOLENCE OF THE MOTHER CHURCH. EVEN THE APOSTLES CHOSE DEACONS WHEN THE MINISTRY WORKS WERE INCREASING SO MUCH. THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOUR MIND AND HEART IS STAGNANT IN THE SYSTEM OF THE PAST BUT YOU ARE BLIND TO THE SITUATION AND NECESSITIES OF THE PRESENT. I THANK GOD THAT THE CHURCH PRESERVES THE FAITH AND APOSTOLIC TRADITION BUT AT THE SAME TIME ALIVE AND DYNAMIC TO RESPOND TO THE PRESENT SITUATION. AN STAGNANT CHURCH BELONGS TO THE DEVIL. THE CHURCH IS NEVER STAGNANT EITHER IN THE PAST OR AT PRESENT. THERE IS DEVELOPMENT IN THE CHURCH. THE TIARA OF THE POPE, THE GOLDEN VESTMENTS, THE ROMAN CHASUBLES IN MAGNIFICENT FABRICS ARE ALL PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT. AS THE CHURCH USED THEM LATER, SHE CAN ALSO DISCARD THEM AND RETURN TO THE MORE SIMPLER FORMS WHICH WERE MUCH OLDER AND MORE APOSTOLIC.

STUDY THE HISTORY OF THE CHURCH IF THE LITURGY AND LIFE OF THE CHURCH DURING THE TIME OF PIUS XII IS EXACTLY THE SAME DURING THE TIME OF POPE ST. LEO THE GREAT. GOSH, JUST STUDY THEIR CLOTHES AND VESTMENTS YOU WILL ALREADY SEE THE DIFFERENCES AND THE DEVELOPMENTS AND THE CHANGES. THEY DO CHANGED A LOT. ONLY THE SUBSTANCE OF THE FAITH AND THE HOLY MASS DIDN’T CHANGE BUT ACCIDENTALS LIKE LANGUAGE, VESTMENTS, RITES, SONGS, WERE CHANGING.

AS REGARDS KNEELING FOR COMMUNION, ALL CATHOLICS TODAY KNEEL BEFORE COMMUNION. DURING THE LAMB OF GOD EVERY BODY KNEELS. SO WHEN THEY RECEIVED THE LORD IN COMMUNION THEY ALREADY KNELT. IF YOU READ THE BIBLE THE APOSTLES WERE KNEELING IN FRONT OF THE LORD FROM TIME TO TIME BUT AFTERWARD THEY ALSO STAND. THEY ALSO TALK TO HIM STANDING NOT ALWAYS KNEELING. THE MASS TODAY HAS SIMPLIFIED IT: KNEELING DURING EUCHARISTIC CANON AND KNEELING AT THE AGNUS DEI. GOSH, ISN’T THAT ENOUGH FOR YOU? IF YOU WANT TO SHOW TO US THAT YOU ARE HOLIER THAN US BECAUSE OF KNEELING THEN YOU SHOULD KNEEL FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE CHURCH UNTIL THE END. YOU SHOULD ENTER AND GET OUT OF THE CHURCH KNEELING. STAY KNEELING AFTER HOLY COMMUNION BECAUSE JESUS IS INSIDE YOU FOR SEVERAL HOURS UNTIL YOU DIGEST HIM.

AS REGARDS RECEIVING IT BY TONGUE, ONCE AGAIN THE COMMUNION BY HAND IS MORE APOSTOLIC. JESUS CATEGORICALLY SAID: “TAKE AND EAT…”:

1 Cor 11:24 [Douay-Rheims Bible] “And giving thanks, broke and said: Take ye and eat: This is my body, which shall be delivered for you. This do for the commemoration of me.”

Mt 26:26  [DRB] “And whilst they were at supper, Jesus took bread and blessed and broke and gave to his disciples and said: Take ye and eat. This is my body.”

Mk 14:22  [DRB] “And whilst they were eating, Jesus took bread; and blessing, broke and gave to them and said: Take ye. This is my body.”

THE LITERAL MEANING OF “TAKE THIS” “TAKE YE” “TAKE AND EAT” IS TO GET IT BY YOUR HAND AND PUT IT BY YOUR MOUTH ON YOUR OWN. COMMUNION BY THE HAND HAS MORE BIBLICAL AND APOSTOLIC FOUNDATION. WE RESPECT THE DECISION OF POPE PIUS V TO IMPOSE COMMUNION BY TONGUE ONLY BUT WE ALSO RESPECT THE DECISION OF POPE PAUL VI TO ALLOW COMMUNION BY HAND. WE ARE GRATEFUL TO BOTH IN THEIR OWN SPECIAL WAY. THAT IS THE POWER OF THE CHURCH TO BIND AND TO LOOSE [cf. Mt 16:18-19].

[ Also, can you refer me to any good information that I might read about the early church and the Mass, in general. As to my references, some were taken from John Salza’s Apologetics web site.]

I SUGGEST YOU GO TO THE WEBSITE OF DAVE ARMSTRONG. ITS VERY RICH IN REFUTING THE CLAIMS OF ULTRA-TRADITIONALISTS. ALSO READ THE ACTUAL ROMAN MISSAL AND ITS EXPLANATIONS OF THE ENTIRE PAULINE MASS RITE AND THEOLOGY. YOU WILL BE SURPRISED OF ITS RICHNESS AND ITS RELIANCE ON THE LITURGICAL TRADITION OF THE CHURCH.

[Yes, my early association with the Tridenetine Mass was with the SSPX, but I now attend it at a Diocesan Oratory of St. Philip Neri.]

PRAISE THE LORD THAT YOU STOP GOING WITH SSPX. HOWEVER, LEARN FROM THE DIOCESAN ORATORY OF ST. PHILIP NERI WELL. I DON’T THINK THAT THE ORATORY OF ST. PHILIP NERI IS TEACHING YOU NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT THE MASS OF POPE PAUL VI. YOU STILL HAVE REMNANT OF THE POISONS OF SSPX. HOPE YOU CAN GET RID OF THEM. LOVE YOUR CHURCH, LOVE THE LITURGICAL TRADITION OF THE CHURCH. THE TRIDENTINE MASS IS ONLY ONE ASPECT OF THAT VERY RICH TRADITION. OPEN WIDE YOUR HORIZONS TO MANY OTHER.

GOD BLESS YOU.