Lapsed Man

Martin Luther attacked the Roman Church doctrine of Clerical Celibacy, that’s why he married, this is one of the reforms he introduced for the first time in one and a half millennium, He started a Reform that was unheard of in the Roman Rite of the Church, that is the married Clergy, this is now being looked upon as a solution for the dwindling priesthood since this is just really a discipline, much more, the Eastern Catholic clergy has married priest, another solution is the creation of the Anglican Rite, which has married priest, so there has been a lot of solutions introduced by Martin Luther if the Clergy at his time had accepted their mistake and sins, Also to call them a fornicator as well as his wife Katharina von Bora,
a Saint in the Lutheran Church brings all the decades effort of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity back to ZERO! The Church has been reaching out to the Protestant Church and calling their leaders Fornicators and Abominable is a step back, a big step back.

And for the Author or Authors of this blog who denies the contributions of the Reformation to the Church, lets just read the statement from the Church itself and the Lutherans.

“Joint Statement by the Lutheran World Federation and the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity” On 31st of October 2017, the final day of the year of the common ecumenical Commemoration of the Reformation, we are very thankful for the spiritual and theological gifts received through the Reformation, a commemoration that we have shared together and with our ecumenical partners globally.

Do i need to say more on the spiritual and theological gifts received through the Reformation?

The Splendor of the Church

In reply to Lapsed Man.

[Martin Luther attacked the Roman Church doctrine of Clerical Celibacy, that’s why he married, this is one of the reforms he introduced for the first time in one and a half millennium, He started a Reform that was unheard of in the Roman Rite of the Church, that is the married Clergy,]

MARTIN LUTHER’S ATTACKED ON CLERICAL CELIBACY IS AN ACT OF STUPIDITY. BECAUSE THE CLERICAL CELIBACY IS “CHRISTOLOGICAL”. THE LORD JESUS IS THE HIGH PRIEST OF THE NEW COVENANT AND HE IS CELIBATE. JESUS TOLD HIS APOSTLES TO FOLLOW HIM AND THUS, THEY LEFT EVERYTHING BEHIND. UNLIKE THE PROTESTANT PASTORS WHO DIDN’T LEAVE EVERYTHING BEHIND BUT FOUND THEIR OWN FAMILY WITH WIFE AND CHILDREN TO FEED RATHER THAN BEING CELIBATE LIKE JESUS. FOLLOWING THE CELIBACY OF JESUS IS THE BEST BECAUSE THE WAY OF THE LORD IS THE BEST WAY. INSTEAD, LUTHER ABANDON HIS OWN VOW OF CELIBACY AND CHASTITY.

ABANDONING THE WAY OF THE LORD IS NOT A REFORM BUT FOOLISHNESS. WHAT REFORM ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? HE CANNOT EVEN REFORM THE SCANDALS AND DIVISIONS IN THE LUTHERAN CHURCH AND IN PROTESTANTISM. EXCUSE ME… REFORM MY FOOT. TELL THAT TO THE MARINES OR TO THE NAVY. HA HA HA… IT IS NOT A REFORM BUT LUTHER CHOSE THE WAY OF THE FLESH, PLAIN AND SIMPLY. NO MORE, NO LESS. NO REFORM AT ALL. NO NO NO… NADA, NUNCA, NIENTE… IN RUSSIAN: NYET, NYET. HA HA HA…

[ this is now being looked upon as a solution for the dwindling priesthood]

HA HA HA THAT IS VERY PATHETIC AND PREPOSTEROUS. I MIGHT SAY PLAIN STUPID CLAIM. THE LUTHERAN CHURCH AND THE PROTESTANT CHURCH AS A WHOLE IS NOTHING IN COMPARISON WITH THE GROWING NUMBER OF CATHOLIC FAITHFUL AND EVEN OF OUR CLERGY. WE ARE LACKING IN EUROPE AND IN NORTH AMERICA BUT WE HAVE NUMEROUS CLERGY IN AFRICA, ASIA AND IN SOUTH AMERICA. HA HA HA… THE LUTHERAN CHURCH OF LUTHER DIDN’T INCREASE BECAUSE OF MARRIED CLERGY. WE EVEN HAVE MORE PRIESTS THAN THE LUTHERAN CHURCH. THE MARRIED CLERGY OF THE ANGLICAN CHURCH AND EPISCOPALIAN CHURCH AS WELL AS THE LUTHERAN, METHODIST AND BAPTIST CHURCHES GAVE THEM MORE PROBLEMS THAN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. MANY OF THEIR PASTORS ARE WORKING MOST OF THE WEEK IN ORDER TO FEED THEIR FAMILY SO THAT THEIR PRIORITY IS THE WELFARE OF THEIR FAMILIES RATHER THAN THE WELFARE OF THE PEOPLE OF GOD.

THE RELIGIOUS ORDERS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WITH MEMBERS VOWED TO CELIBACY HAS OPENED MORE UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES, HOSPITALS AND ORPHANAGES, AND DID MORE MISSIONARY WORKS BECAUSE THEY ARE CELIBATE. SO YOUR CLAIM THAT ABANDONMENT OF CELIBACY IS A REFORM AND A SOLUTION IS PLAIN FOOLISHNESS WITH NO FOUNDATION IN REALITY. HA HA HA NO NO NO… NADA, NUNCA, NIENTE… IN RUSSIAN: NYET, NYET… HA HA HA…

[since this is just really a discipline, much more, the Eastern Catholic clergy has married priest,]

CELIBACY IS A DISCIPLINE BUT A VERY IMPORTANT DISCIPLINE BECAUSE IT IS THE LIFESTYLE OF THE LORD JESUS HIMSELF. THAT IS CHRISTOLOGICAL DISCIPLINE. LUTHER CHOSE TO FOLLOW THE WAY OF THE FLESH RATHER THAN FOLLOW THE FOOTSTEPS OF THE DIVINE LAMB WHO OFFERED HIMSELF AS A SACRIFICE AND OBLATION TO GOD AND THE CHURCH.

WE RESPECT THE EASTERN CATHOLIC TRADITION OF MARRIED PRIESTHOOD BUT LOOK AT THEM THEY ARE ALSO TOO FEW. WHY? ITS DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN MINISTRY AND RAISING A FAMILY AT THE SAME TIME. THAT IS PLAIN OBVIOUS AND SIMPLY PRACTICAL. BESIDES, THE EASTERN CATHOLICS RESERVE THE OFFICE OF THE BISHOPS TO CELIBATE ALSO.

[another solution is the creation of the Anglican Rite, which has married priest,]

THE ANGLICANS THEMSELVES ARE PROBLEMATIC. THEY ARE MUCH MORE LACKING IN VOCATION AND THEIR RATE OF ANGLICANS LEAVING THE ANGLICAN CHURCH IS FASTER THAN ANY OTHER. THE ANGLICAN CHURCH IS A DYING CHURCH. HA HA HA… WHAT A SHAME. THE LEADER OF THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND IS THE MONARCH. IT WILL SOON BE LED BY CHARLES THE ADULTERER LIKE LUTHER AND HENRY VIII. HA HA HA… NOW THE QUEEN IS THE HEAD OF THE ANGLICAN CHURCH AND SHE LET HER SON KEEP HIS MISTRESS CAMILLA EVEN THOUGH DIANA WAS STILL ALIVE. WHEN SHE DIED HE IS NOW FREE TO KEEP HIS MISTRESS AS A WIFE, NOT MARRIED IN THE ANGLICAN CHURCH BUT ONLY CIVILLY. WHAT IS THAT?

THE ANGLICANS ACCEPTED WOMEN CLERGY AND HOMOSEXUAL CLERGY YET THEY ARE STILL FEWER AND FEWER. HA HA HA… THE SOLUTION OF LUTHER IS A STUPID SOLUTION BECAUSE HE ABANDONED THE SOLUTION OF JESUS CHRIST, THE ETERNAL HIGH PRIEST AND SUPREME CELIBATE. HA HA HA…

[ so there has been a lot of solutions introduced by Martin Luther]

ONCE AGAIN, LUTHER DIDN’T GIVE A SOLUTION. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS MORE CELIBATE CLERGY MORE THAN THE MARRIED CLERGY OF THE LUTHERAN, ANGLICAN, EPISCOPALIAN, ETC. HA HA HA…. WHAT LUTHER DID IS NOT SOLUTION BUT BETRAYAL OF HIS VOW OF CHASTITY AND CELIBACY. HE CHOSE THE WAY OF THE FLESH. POOR LUTHER, HE MUST BE DYING IN HEAT THAT TIME. HA HA HA…

[ if the Clergy at his time had accepted their mistake and sins,]

THE CLERGY OF HIS TIME REMAINED FAITHFUL TO THEIR VOWS OF CELIBACY AND CHASTITY. VERY FEW JOINED LUTHER IN HIS SEASON OF HEAT… THE HEAT IS ON WITH LUTHER BUT IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THE CELIBACY OF JESUS REIGNS SUPREME THEN AND NOW. HA HA HA… SORRY FOR YOU. HA HA HA…

[Also to call them a fornicator as well as his wife Katharina von Bora,
a Saint in the Lutheran Church]

WHO CANONIZED KATHARINA VON BORA? WHERE DID YOU CANONIZE HER IN BORA BEACH? WE KEEP ON RECEIVING ATTACKS FROM PROTESTANTS FOR HONORING THE SAINTS AND NOW YOU’RE TELLING ME THAT THE WIFE OF LUTHER IS A LUTHERAN SAINT. HA HA HA… THAT IS A VERY LUTHER-AN HYPOCRISY AT BEST. HA HA HA…

[ brings all the decades effort of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity back to ZERO!]

HA HA HA… YOU ARE THE ONE WHO BRINGS THE EFFORT OF THE PONTIFICAL COUNCIL FOR PROMOTING CHRISTIAN UNITY BACK TO ZERO. YOU STUPIDLY ATTACK OUR CATHOLIC FAITH AND DISCIPLINE HERE. WE ARE NOT THE ONES WHO WENT TO YOUR WEBSITE AND ATTACK YOU BUT YOU ARE THE ONE WHO ENTERED HERE INSULTING US WITH YOUR COMMENTS. WE ARE ONLY DEMOLISHING YOUR LIES AND PATHETIC CLAIMS. DON’T HIDE AT THE SKIRT OF THE PONTIFICAL COUNCIL FOR PROMOTING CHRISTIAN UNITY TO COVER YOUR MALICIOUS WAYS. EXCUSE ME. HA HA HA…

[ The Church has been reaching out to the Protestant Church and calling their leaders Fornicators and Abominable is a step back, a big step back.]

YOU ARE THE ONE CRITICIZING US. WE ONLY RESPONDED TO YOU IN KIND AND IN THE SAME MANNER. WHY? ARE YOU HURT BY YOUR OWN MALICE AND EVIL STAND THAT YOU CANNOT DEFEND? IF YOU TRULY WANT TO BE HONORED THE WAY THE CONGREGATION FOR CHRISTIAN UNITY TREAT YOUR LEADERS WHO VISIT THE VATICAN FOLLOW THEIR EXAMPLES OF LOVE AND PEACE AND RESPECT OF OUR CATHOLIC DOCTRINE AND DISCIPLINE. YOU CANNOT SIMPLY ATTACK OUR FAITH HERE WITH IMPUNITY. YOU CANNOT HIT US AND THEN HIDE IN VATICAN OFFICES. NO NO NO… NADA, NUNCA, NIENTE… IN RUSSIAN: NYET, NYET. HA HA HA… IF YOU ATTACK OUR FAITH THEN BE READY TO RECEIVE OUR RESPONSE IN KIND WITH CHARITY AND JUSTICE… THAT IS WITH TRUTH. WHY? IS IT NOT TRUE THAT LUTHER AND HIS WIFE VOWED IN CELIBACY AS MONKS? IT IS TRUE. THEY ABANDONED THEIR VOWS AND LIVED IN FORNICATION. THAT IS A FACT. TRUTH HURTS, ISN’T IT? THEN LICK YOUR SHAME WHEN CONFRONTED BY TRUTH. HA HA HA…

[And for the Author or Authors of this blog who denies the contributions of the Reformation to the Church, lets just read the statement from the Church itself and the Lutherans.]

WE DO NOT DENY THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF THE REFORMATION TO THE CHURCH. WHAT WE ATTACK ARE YOUR ACCUSATIONS AGAINST US AND WHAT WE DENOUNCE ARE THE HERESIES THAT THEY PREACHED. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ALSO CONDEMNED THEIR HERESIES WITH SERIES OF ANATHEMAS IN THE COUNCIL OF TRENT. THOSE HERESIES ARE STILL HERESIES UNTIL NOW.

WE RECOGNIZE THE GOOD THINGS THAT THEY ARE DOING. BUT THEY SHOULD ALSO RECOGNIZE THE GOOD THINGS THAT WE CATHOLICS ARE DOING. THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOU WANT US TO RESPECT LUTHER AND THE PROTESTANTS AND YET YOU HURL ATTACKS AND ACCUSATIONS AGAINST US. O NO NO NO… WE SHALL NOT TAKE THAT SITTING DOWN. YOU HAVE TO FACE OUR RESPONSE TO YOUR UNJUST AND MALICIOUS ATTACKS AGAINST THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

[“Joint Statement by the Lutheran World Federation and the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity” On 31st of October 2017, the final day of the year of the common ecumenical Commemoration of the Reformation, we are very thankful for the spiritual and theological gifts received through the Reformation, a commemoration that we have shared together and with our ecumenical partners globally.]

WHATEVER GOOD GIFTS THAT YOU HAVE DONE WE ARE GRATEFUL. THANK YOU FOR THEM. BUT WE ARE NOT THANKFUL FOR YOUR HERESIES AND DIVISIONS AND REBELLIONS AND YOUR MISTAKES AS WELL. IF YOU WANT US TO ACCEPT LUTHER’S ERRORS YOU ARE FREE TO HALLUCINATE. HALLUCINATIONS ARE FREE INTERNATIONALLY. HA HA HA…

[Do i need to say more on the spiritual and theological gifts received through the Reformation?]

ON OUR PART, NO NEED. WE KNOW THEM. WE APPRECIATE THE PROTESTANTS’S BEAUTIFUL SONGS, WIDE-RANGING BIBLICAL SCHOLARSHIP, THE PASSION FOR THE WORD OF GOD AND FOR EVANGELIZATION, ETC.

HOWEVER, DON’T TELL US THAT LUTHER’S FORNICATION IS OK OVER CHRIST’S CELIBACY. EXCUSE ME THAT IS NOT SPIRITUAL AND THEOLOGICAL GIFTS. THAT IS BULLSHIT.